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speedy
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Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:02 pm
Now that time has gone by, we have all calmed down from the news that the show has been cancelled and have digested this, should it have really been given another chance?

Opinions?

I also made this post at KRO so please don't think it's a coincidence. Wink
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:10 am
A certain unnamed producer killed this show plain and simple! By the time ppl at 'the top' took notice and did something about it the shows fate was already, in my opinion, decided.

Would have been nice to see a series 2, that said I'm not all that sure what they cold have done with it as some of the first series episodes story lines were shocking!
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:51 am
The show should have been taken to the fans of the original and said how do we do this right

The new guy Justin Bruening we all got to see on screen had everything required to make it work

The car was just and advertisement for ford, the transforming into pickup trucks etc was crazy

It was too futuristic, too many CGI , not enough stuntmen etc etc, smash up a few mustangs they are cheap in the USA

dump the porno clad bikini girl crew and get back to one man and his car can make a difference

Then for god sake get some decent writers in to do the thing, and it would have hit many seasons
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:07 am
My opinion is that it was, at least, worthy of another season.

They started to get things right with the final few episodes (apart from the last episode which went all Incredible Hulk and stupid) and the ratings in the US went up!

Product placement does not bother me, we have items in real life that are made by major companies so having them in movies makes no difference to me.

If they want to show off a can of Pepsi or a stereo made by Sony then they can do since that's what we have in reality, anyway.

I agree on the CGI front, it was too heavy.

What made the original series appealing was that the stunts were real and that's one of the reasons why I like the original KR.

They could have done without the silly comedy, it was not funny and too try hard.

Anyway, this is turning into a review about the new one, I heard some pretty good things about the scripts for season 2 such as KITT actually being the KITT from the original series.

Every tv show needs to find it's footing and style when it starts, KR2008 was trying to do that and I believe they found their style by the end of the season.

But NBC decided to be greedy with money and stop it altogether because they weren't getting what they wanted straight away!

The one thing I will say is that I didn't like the Attack KITT, anyway, it was nothing like KR and I'm not too keen on the dual scanner either.

The pilot episode Pursuit version of KITT got it right!


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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:20 pm
I thought it was an ok action show, but not knight rider. For me the problems that others have mentioned spoiled it, especially the cgi turbo boost, maybe they didn't know how to build a ramp lol.
And I always found it amusing the way he would lean to one side when sitting in the car, so you could see the logo on the seat lol.

But it could have done with another season to iron some things out.
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:50 pm
This is a opening a can of worms really lol.

The show was ok from an up to date action show point of view. It was us die hard Knight Rider fans that killed it as we just couldnt accept 28 years worth of change. It was never going to be like the original Knight Rider and neither should it have been. Things change alot 28 years down the line. The only one thing that should never have changed is the ONE MAN CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. A very simple building block/foundation.

Ok so the car didnt have the pinashe of the original KITT and it really needed more than a bloody orb inside it too. I totally saw where they were coming from with the heads up display as that is what is in high end cars these days so it was a natural/logical choice. But NOT from a tv show angle.

As for the C.G.I................ Well again i think that is the general populations own doing as more and more movies etc are CGI and we support them so its our own damned faults. I have never watched the likes of AVATAR and am not interested in it as its way overkill on the CGI. But whilst people rush to the movies to see these types of films etc it is going to lead producers etc to believe that this is the new big thing and we MUST use it. I personally HATE CGI its a cheap skate way out as hey we dont have to pay actors and stuntmen. Cgi should only be used to create the likes of dinosaurs etc etc in movies, not people or the likes of people as good old makeup artists know how to do their jobs.

As for the FORD commercial lol. Ford funded the show and like any other type of sponsorship they were going to want it to be worth their while. It was something that was obviously going to happen. Plus it was easy for the show to get its hands on other vehicles etc when they were called for.

The show should have been given a chance at a second season yes and NBC shouldnt have been in such a rush to dismiss it. They should have had some balls and listened to what the viewers were saying and made the appropriate changes.

there thats my 2 pence worth lmao

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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:24 pm
Yes i say, they where begining to sort it out imo
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:20 pm
yes after the fbi team left it was going the right way . but new kitt shoud't be made from the old kitt. when the foundation closed i think michael took kitt and became a p.i .(any way if you built kitt would you stripe him down to make new a.i that act like a baby). thats my idea
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:56 pm
SteveFawcett wrote:The show should have been taken to the fans of the original and said how do we do this right

The new guy Justin Bruening we all got to see on screen had everything required to make it work

The car was just and advertisement for ford, the transforming into pickup trucks etc was crazy

It was too futuristic, too many CGI , not enough stuntmen etc etc, smash up a few mustangs they are cheap in the USA

dump the porno clad bikini girl crew and get back to one man and his car can make a difference

Then for god sake get some decent writers in to do the thing, and it would have hit many seasons

I agree with everything Steve said except for the "Porno clad bikini girl crew" lol.

When i first saw the pilot i thought using the Mustang was a bad idea and to be fair i still think that. Also, transforming the car was the worst idea since SPM.

That said, i did buy the box set and started to get into it.

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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:51 pm
I really agree with the too much CGI not enough story.The transforming thing was the worst idea I did like the car choice but hated kitts voice!
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:06 am
Hi Guys

I think the problems they face when trying to resurrect Knight Rider is this.It was RIGHT for it's TIME.
It was fresh and new and PERFECT for the eighties.The way shows were made with stunts 'on location' and the crews used,music, everything about it was why it looked and worked and appealed like it did/does.
These days they've changed a lot and technology has too.Things have changed.Some NOT for the best or better.
Most things appealing to the show are 'old hat' now as technology and gismos on screen rule with shows now.The heart and soul of the show in ANY incarnation is gone.
The origional will NEVER lose it's appeal with me.I have a lot of fond memories watching this show ( i NEVER missed one that they transmitted) on tv numerous times.ENOUGH to warrant creating my own replica and i have enjoyed every minute mostly.

It IS sad but everyone who try's to ressurect this classic show fails because they always insist on putting 'their stamp 'on it and hey presto IT BOMBS big time.

Another sore point with me, and i know this has been discussed before AND the reasons why, is they flatly refuse to use the iconic 1982 Trans Am.Now forgive me they may have reason's with Pontiac ( now deceased:) but EVERY other ressurected show with an iconic car USES THE SAME CAR.You just LOVE to see the same car.It hits the spot.
Be it Torino,Charger,Delorean.Chevy van.
With Knight Rider EVERYONE LOVES the Black Trans Am,we've proven this at shows and with online polls, but No, we have to suffer an inedequate, false and totally inappropriate car for the new shows.
Then we wonder WHY it loses it's soul. K.I.T.T in his TRUE and ONLY form WAS the HEART of the show..........
Still, rules and laws state the likelihood of this ever happening with an 82 car ARE SLIM IF EVER.

Whilst i'm on the subject Victor IS THIS KNIGHT RIDER movie EVER going to get released??????? It is nearly the end of 2010 after all:)


Peace and love guys..............Kev
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:58 am
knight2 wrote:Hi Guys

I think the problems they face when trying to resurrect Knight Rider is this.It was RIGHT for it's TIME.
It was fresh and new and PERFECT for the eighties.The way shows were made with stunts 'on location' and the crews used,music, everything about it was why it looked and worked and appealed like it did/does.
These days they've changed a lot and technology has too.Things have changed.Some NOT for the best or better.
Most things appealing to the show are 'old hat' now as technology and gismos on screen rule with shows now.The heart and soul of the show in ANY incarnation is gone.
The origional will NEVER lose it's appeal with me.I have a lot of fond memories watching this show ( i NEVER missed one that they transmitted) on tv numerous times.ENOUGH to warrant creating my own replica and i have enjoyed every minute mostly.

It IS sad but everyone who try's to ressurect this classic show fails because they always insist on putting 'their stamp 'on it and hey presto IT BOMBS big time.

Another sore point with me, and i know this has been discussed before AND the reasons why, is they flatly refuse to use the iconic 1982 Trans Am.Now forgive me they may have reason's with Pontiac ( now deceased:) but EVERY other ressurected show with an iconic car USES THE SAME CAR.You just LOVE to see the same car.It hits the spot.
Be it Torino,Charger,Delorean.Chevy van.
With Knight Rider EVERYONE LOVES the Black Trans Am,we've proven this at shows and with online polls, but No, we have to suffer an inedequate, false and totally inappropriate car for the new shows.
Then we wonder WHY it loses it's soul. K.I.T.T in his TRUE and ONLY form WAS the HEART of the show..........
Still, rules and laws state the likelihood of this ever happening with an 82 car ARE SLIM IF EVER.

Whilst i'm on the subject Victor IS THIS KNIGHT RIDER movie EVER going to get released??????? It is nearly the end of 2010 after all:)


Peace and love guys..............Kev

I know I'm not Nick but I can say with confidence that the movie is coming. Wink
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:11 am
Speedy, your sources are who exactly!? I don't see how anyone 'can be sure' when all said and done it has been nothing more than 'talk' so far.
Yes we know Mr Larson is working on a script, but without wanting to burst any bubbles a script is just a script with no studio/prod company backing.

Unless it's going to be self produced I don't see anyone stepping up to the plate to fund it given the recent flop of the TV show.

The whole thing seems to be dragging somewhat now, how long has this been in 'limbo' now!? I know it's been mentioned now at 3 if not 4 Knightcon events....

It's not that I don't want it to happen, I just feel given the current economy and movie trends (forget A-Team, Tron etc... They were pre cuts/economic doom!) I find it hard to believe given the amount of time it's taken to release a whole lot of, well nothing, the chances of much more than 'not a lot' actually happening are pretty slim.

These are just my opinions.
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:03 pm
I hope that the movie does happen in my lifetime, it was on the KOE forum promised in 1997, to be honest with glen writing the script the movie will have the same love and soul as the series we grew up with

lets hope Glen does get the backing from the studio as it would be great to see if it does happen
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:22 pm
I too hope it happens...... Although I also hope to win the lottery, a £million scratch card and the next series of Britains Got Talent.
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:35 am
I have to say, once again, what i've been saying for the past 10 years.

The movie WILL NOT happen. (as much as i'd absolutely love it too)

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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:17 pm
What happened to beig POSITIVE guys?????
It ALWAYS HELPS....................................Kev
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:30 pm
Sorry to burst your bubble mate but we can all sit here wishing and hoping it was 1983 all over again, would that make it happen?
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:48 pm
Your Not 'bursting my bubble' matey, but being positive is a lot more productive than being negative about it.There's too much of that going on in this world today as it IS.
You attract what you think.................TRUST ME.

I think it WILL happen but just not yet.Especially with the revamped series still fresh in viewers minds.

............Kev
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:32 am
Fair enough, i agree being positive in what we do effects us directly, but being 'positive' about something we have no control over whatsoever is neither productive nor counter productive, end of.
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:32 am
We will see..................
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:56 pm
As we have been for the past how many years now!?
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:36 pm
enlighten me......Smile
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Re: Should KR2008 really have been given a second chance?

on Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:02 pm
To what? The fact that this film has been in the works for the past 5+ years? It's hardly a secret.
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