Re: As knight con lost its way?

Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:01 pm

Hecky, really, is there ANY need for that? Childish fool.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:16 pm

Chris you know I like you but take it easy ok?

M.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:34 pm

Well I maybe haven't unfriended Ryan but he did unfriend me. It's cool. Each to its own.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:07 pm

If you re-read EVERYTHING I have put.....you will actually see I'm saying it doesn't matter where people have deleted others from, be it Facebook, KRUK or whatever people have friends on. The point comes down to its childish over all. I never actually said anyone had been delete off here, I was just generalising.

And again....if you re-read my post, you will actually see I'm NOT saying that neither of them care....what I actually said was that the public don't care about the cars and if they scratch them etc. which is a MAJOR concern.

Both Rob and Steve have "deleted" Ryan on Facebook....and either not given a reason, or their reason was "you were slagging me off"....rash decision seen as though he wasn't and very immature for grown men. Yet rob states that he sees everyone as "friends" contradicting himself there to be honest.

Ryan....and anybody else for that matter.....has a right to post whatever they feel like on their OWN Facebook page without it being dragged into a forum site. I think you'll find if he wanted to put it in the forum he would have done. Regardless of what he stated in his Facebook post.

I think you will find I know full well that the forum is for "car owners as well as fans", but I thought everyone was entitled to their own opinion....regardless of if they own a replica or not? I may not own one but I do a HELL of a lot of work with Ryan and his. But the fact his got damaged due to lack of barrier systems in place, quite rightly annoyed him, and myself in turn because its just not right. If you know how many cars you are going to have there, then it needs to be catered for!

And yes I do know that Rob and Steve are car owners. It does not make what I say any different.

I've caught wind that not many people will take their cars next year because if damage caused. So what happens then? Your number of KITT replicas have gone from around 21 down to around 12 this year....what next year? 6 maybe? All because of how it was handled this year.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:07 pm

Come on guy's (and Gals). Lets keep Facebook off the forum. Some of us don't use 2Facebook so all comments made there should be copied here.

And this is ther reason i DON'T use facebook. The whole thing is insidious in it's creation. "He deleted me so i deleted her. The she deleted someone else then...........". That is the childish part.

This forum is for Discussion, rational discussion, putting opinions and views accross (good or bad)

Peter

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:31 pm

Ok here's my opinion: My opinion is that Ryan should have posted here too and not just Facebook even he has right to do with his own Facebook whatever he wants same like I do too and same like Steve and Rob do too. Therefor him being unfriended on Facebook by those two had nothing to do with this website yet he voiced his opinion not just about the event which was also his right but about possibility that he will be deleted here even nothing was pointing that way and that my friends pissed me off. Ok? This is my pride and joy with Peter's and Scott's help so I tend to get pissed off when this place is being slagged off for no reason. I responded the way I did because he stated and I quote "I would normally post this on KRUK" etc. so here it is on KRUK too. Is there something wrong with that post that other shouldn't know about it? I didn't censor anything but copied his post like it was on there. You don't have to be here in this bad place, it was your choice to join forum and I will not tolerate slagging it off.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:37 pm

SKIMODE wrote:Can i just state for the record, that we absolutely planned to have the whole kitt area barriered off and not just the full back section. The fact that this happened is unfortunately down to the venue not allocating us enough barriers, this is a MAJOR concern to me!! and a matter i will absolutely be bringing up at my next meeting with them!.

Unfortunately on the day i was totally unaware of any damage being caused to your cars, if i had been informed i would have WITHOUT DOUBT done my absolute best to try and rectify the situation! i hope you all know me well enough by now to know that i take your happiness and safety of your cars VERY VERY seriously!!

This fact has obviously ruined most of your experiences at the event this year, so much to the point that many have stated you will not be returning with your cars again, and for that i am eternally sorry as i considered each one of you a friend having spent many wonderful times with you over the years at this event.

Because of your utter disappointment with us the organisers of Knightcon and other factors, a statement is now been produced regarding the future of the event.

once again, i can only apologise on behalf of myself (Rob) and Steve

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:40 pm

Ryan is more than welcome to have an opinion on this forum thats what its for! its a debate problem

Heckie knight you have never supported the event, you come and cause trouble and leave, you went to keswick and said i had sent you, i hadnt, you then went on to take sneaky photos.

big man behind a big keyboard, come to Glenns and discuss it with me, you know where he lives

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:42 pm

Dear lord! Its like groundhog day. No one is slagging KRUK off. Ryan isn't and neither am I, others I cannot speak for. I think it's a good idea to be perfectly honest, in having something like this for people all over the country! If he doesn't want to post on here then that's up to him. He's still allowed to post whatever he likes on his own page. Facebook is Facebook. KRUK is KRUK. They are completely separate and quite frankly should stay that way.

And again....I'm back to the pathetic state of it all. A personal Facebook page cannot even be personal because some one thinks they're being "slagged off" it's beyond a joke. I've had my moments when I've posted something on Facebook and not the page it relates to....but when they get wind of it they don't turn all childish and post it on their page too.

This whole thing is pathetic because it seems people can't air their views without being slagged off, told they're wrong, incorrect or even have it personal.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:45 pm

if Ryan at any point had called me ( he has my number) i would have come out and stood with his car personally for the day until he went and did as he pleased, i think you need to re read the post rob did earlier, we will personally be discussing this with the venue dont worry

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:49 pm

After reading all of this I really would not be suprised if Steve and Rob take the decision to stop putting on the event. Both Steve and Rob own replica's and they have not been to this event in a few years. They put us before themselves, and do so on a regular basis.

As I have said before this event is put on for us. They do not get paid for this. it is their time, their effort that we reap the rewards from.... a GREAT FREE EVENT.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:51 pm

At the end of the day, I've voiced my opinions, and that is as far as I will take it. Some of you may not like it, and some people may agree with me. Each too their own. But from my point of view ALL of this could have been handled a lot better, people could have spoken to people before being childish or starting rumours etc.

I stand by what I have said:
1: the event organiser need a pat on the back for the work and effort they put into the event.
2: maybe, the event name etc needs re thinking the further away it gets from KR
3: if people are going to take their cars, appropriate systems need to be put in place ie enough barrier systems, and members of the public told that they cannot "start on" someone for telling their kid to get off the car.
4: stop being childish, your all grown up....treat each other that way. Allow people to air their views on here or in private, without beginning to slag them off etc.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:15 pm

Steve that's rubbish I supported it the 2 years i went to at halifax the first one at xscape I said it had lost that personal feel. There was a few shocks at the first xscape. I then didnt got to the second one but I know alot of people that did go and said knightrider bit was getting lost among the sci-fi stuff. But as my young daughter likes kitt and robot's I took her to this years along with both sides of my family. For her not to be able to see anything. My comment about Robs car is fact. He would not have parked his outside. Also he could not have done anything to stop the other cars from been damaged that is a fact also. Yeah the comment about his car comes I a glass box is not true but if it could it would. That also is a fact. Another fact is I dont know where glenn lives and I have never been to his house and I aint seen him in a over a year probably near on 2. There is no need to discuss it face to face as you don't listen to constructive criticism on here why would you listen to it face to face. Barring or deleting everyone who as a opinion different to yours will only prove one thing.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:26 pm

Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:30 pm

Admin, Mods...

Can we lock this until both Steve and Rob have had time to

A) Speak to the venue regarding the barriers for cars
B) They release there joint statement regarding Knightcon Heros and Star Cars.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:40 pm

Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:55 pm

No we can't lock it. I'm fed up with everyone having right to piss on this site whenever they please but when I defend it I get told I'm childish. I'm also fed up with being ok to post shit from here on Facebook but when something from Facebook involving KRUK ends up here whole hell breaks loose.
Heckyknight your post number says enough how much you are participating here and your opinion could have been worded in much better way. Chris stop behaving like an arse too. Steve stop threatening people on here. Those who are banned and have their own forum can bugger off too you know who you are.
Rob and Steve speed up that statement please.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:01 pm

I do more looking than posting as I dont have a kitt or anything. Yes I could word things better but anyone who knows me I don't have any tact even the wife says so.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:11 pm

This thread has spiralled out of context but i think locking it (as much as i'd like to) would only further peoples perspective that we censor what we don't like and that is simply not the case.

The people from this forum belong to Knight Rider UK, and as such, obviously like Knight Rider. Therefore with the main event's headline being Knightcon before the Star Cars and Heroes, Expect to see a bit more of a Knight Rider theme (like more replicas and a prop/memorabelia room). And i Understand that, I really do.

The point is, Yeah, it wasn't Knightcon as we know it (have known it). but i see a KITT everyday out of my Window. I've hand built now THREE replicas myself.

How often do you get to see Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. Ecto 1, The '89 Batmobile etc. The reason these cars featured so much in the photo's is that most of the people on here own a replica, so why would we take loads of pictures of replicas? We all get to see the progress of these when we get to Knightcon and have a friendly chat with the owners. Progress pictures are posted up on KRUK on a regular basis both in the monthly update thread and each individuals build thread. Wjhy would we then swamp the Knightcon thread with only KITT pics?

We still got to chat with the car owners and see the progress of everyones replicas as we did every year but we had other stuff there to entertain ourselves with as well. The lack of replicas wasn't to do with the event, other people had commitments. 2 KITT's that were coming broke down a week before Knightcon, another 3 or 4 KITT's (maybe more) are under restoration, 2 people i know of just couldn't make it for personal reasons, The european members have a LOT further to come and it cost's a LOT more so can't make it every year. The decrease in KITT's has nothing really to do with the event itself. If they could have made it, they would. Even if only to catch up with us. In a way, the replica owners make the Knightcon part of the day (The main Saturday event) with the chat and general crack about the cars. If you'd came by where the relicas were, you'd have still seen us all getting al;ong the same as we did in the Premier Inn car park.

As for the Damage, a KITT replica can be damaged at any show. Or even on the street as poor Dave will testify too. When you have a car that draws attention, stuff like this happens. We all know it shouldn't, but it does. I've had a child fall onto the nose cone of my first replica. Kids footprints on the nose and bonnet of my second replica and scratches on this one. Not just from Knightcon, but from other shows as well. you can only protect it so much.

Hecky, i've looked at your posts on this whole forum and you only have 7 (at this time) No posts about the actual show, no posts about any replicas, no posts about anything other than to stir up things. Again you mentioned "barring people or deleting posts"? Did you actually READ my statement. we do not Delete posts, Barr or Ban people without a warning. Consider this a Warning as it seems you have only actually came here to incite trouble.

On another note, If Rob wants to bring his car in a glass case, then that's up to him. He paid for his own glass case to protect his own car. Every replica owner on here could buy their own barriers to take if they wished. (you can get them on eBay).

At the end of the day, it was a GREAT event. and the actual event didn't cost you anything. Even the Cosplayers PAID for their costumes and didn't charge people to look at them which some events do.

I just SERIOUSLY hope all of this hasn't put Steve and Rob off from putting on another Event.

At the end of the day, you didn't like it, don't come to the next one. That's the way sensible people look at it.

Peter

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:14 pm

heckyknight wrote:I do more looking than posting as I dont have a kitt or anything. Yes I could word things better but anyone who knows me I don't have any tact even the wife says so.

Then if you get banned it will be because of your tact like Peter, Scott and I mentioned and not because you have different opinion. Stop making things like they are not. If we wanted to ban you for different opinion you would be banned at the start of this post.
Enough of this I have different opinion and I'll get banned bullshit everyone.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:21 pm

On another note, If Rob wants to bring his car in a glass case, then that's up to him. He paid for his own glass case to protect his own car. Every replica owner on here could buy their own barriers to take if they wished. (you can get them on eBay).

Sorry I was taking the piss I didn't realise he had bought one.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:28 pm

heckyknight wrote:On another note, If Rob wants to bring his car in a glass case, then that's up to him. He paid for his own glass case to protect his own car. Every replica owner on here could buy their own barriers to take if they wished. (you can get them on eBay).

Sorry I was taking the piss I didn't realise he had bought one.

And you're still taking a piss, aren't you?
Peter was speaking hypothetically.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:28 pm

Yeah, the Glass Case was a generalisation based on your sarky comment, meaning if he wants to protect his own car in any way he see's fit, he has every right to.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:32 pm

I wasn't actually.I thought he had it at knightcon upstairs behind a partition or something. Cause you said that I thought it was true.

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:39 pm

You can ban me. Sorry, but a lot of you need to grow the hell up and see the world for more than just sodding Knight Rider.
Sure I might be 'direct' in what I have to say, but feck me, tell me I'm not correct when I say that the majority of themoaning about this event is coming from Knight Rider 'people'?

I've been involved in some way with these events since day 1, whether it's chasing off travelers trying to poke the sh*t outta Steve's car, managing the car park at the Premiere Inn, helping keeping things running smoothly at the Xcape, I've always tried to do something.

This year however I didn't, why? The main reason was for health concerns, but a secondary reason was simply because as a fan base (I'm speaking generally, not each and every person) you are the most selfish bunch people I've ever come across. Every year a small group of us would bust our balls at these events, people would find something to bitch about BUT very, very rarely offer to step up to the plate and actually offer their time for free to help.
Do you have the SLIGHTEST idea how much work goes into these events? These FREE events that are provide for you out of the love for the hobby? Go on, give it some thought?
Two years back there was an issue with people getting too close to cars.... who stood there and told people not to touch.... me. Why? Because I could see it needed doing so I did it. Did anyone think or offer to this year? You can bitch and moan that it's Steve and Rob that need to sort it, but really, does it take that much common ruddy sense to step up and actually do a bit to help with the running? So yeah, you brought your car to the event, that's f*cking awesome of you (and I really mean that!) but does that mean that your involvement has to stop there?
Some of us gave up work year in year out, spent our own money to help on the day, gave our time in days worth of set-up, edited promo material, took photos, the list goes on and on.

I actually thought we had something good going on in the UK, unlike in the USA where they seem to be constantly at war..

Sorry to say it would seem that the UK is just the same.

Knight Rider = Self obsessed freaks.

Ban me, I'm done. I'm so past caring about you idiots.